Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 4:07 pm Post subject: The Tarot
Hi all.
Well this is the start to the Tarot section. Here we will discuss many aspects of the Tarot cards, readings spreads, and just General topic's related to the Art of Tarot
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Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 4:00 am Post subject: TAROT
Hi Stone Rainbow.
i'm glad you decided to include Tarot in with the topics. I've been reading the Tarot for some time now, although im not very confident with them, i have been told that i am very gifted at reading them. I dont really understand how it all works, i just know that i seem to get things right when i read them for people.
I would like to offer members Tarot readings on here if thats ok. good practice for me building up my confidence with them.
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 8:34 pm Post subject: How does the Tarot work?
Here is an indepth view that you may find interesting.
How does Tarot work?
The most honest answer is: We don’t know, but we have lots of theories. This is also true of many things in science, from physics to medicine.
Despite the many theories, Tarot readers do agree on this: it does work. This means many Tarot readers are pragmatists: They want to use Tarot to help themselves and others, with or without an explanation that satisfies the modern rationalist mind.
Some explanations of "how it works" involve references to Jungian archetypes or to Qabalah, or to consistency with elemental dignities, or to other similarities with astrological symbolism.
To me these may be interesting contexts in which to view Tarot and may (or may not) enrich our experience of it. But they don’t explain the core experience of a Tarot reading: receiving information that is not available to us on a rational level.
Some people explain this experience by saying it involves contact with the "universal unconscious," or the "universal mind," or the "higher self" or some type of "synchronicity" between the questions or life situation and the cards drawn.
My feeling is that these terms are presently acceptable ways of almost saying what is, to many people schooled in skepticism and linear thinking, intellectually unacceptable to say. It is this unacceptable, radical notion that I will be Fool enough to express here.
I too am a skeptic. I too have been schooled in linear, analytical thinking, and some people think I’m quite good at it. But my experience has led me to other explanations for certain phenomena.
I experience Tarot as
a spiritual intuitive—
even psychic—tool.
I experience Tarot as a spiritual intuitive—even psychic—tool. This does not mean it cannot be used for meditation and for psychological self-understanding. It is excellent for these. But for me, its value goes further.
I believe Tarot helps us contact the spiritual dimension of the Universe. And beyond that—and I feel this is the most important part—Tarot gives us a common language with which to communicate with that dimension.
By this I do not mean that it enables or causes us to channel specific entities such as those a Medium channels, but rather that Tarot gives us a way to receive information from a dimension unavailable to us through our everyday consciousness. You may choose to call this dimension the universal unconscious, higher self, deeper self, Goddess, Spirit, etc. This "dimension" is NOT something "spooky" or "supernatural."
Tarot helps us contact the spiritual dimension of the Universe....
Tarot gives us a common language with which to communicate with that dimension.
Rather, it is as natural as the air we breathe; we swim in it like water.
I have come to this conclusion after developing my psychic/intuitive skills apart from Tarot or any other divinatory tool. When I began doing this, the sensation was the "Look, Ma, no hands!" of a child perhaps recklessly riding a bicycle.
I came to this type of psychic work after having read Tarot for a number of years. At first it felt like reading Tarot without the cards. The non-Tarot symbols seemed to be arising spontaneously in my "mind," or consciousness.
Experienced psychics told me that messages from "Spirit" frequently arise or appear in symbolic language. When first developing psychic skills, a person needs to learn to understand, and then interpret, this symbolic language.
messages from "Spirit" frequently arise or appear in
symbolic language
From this explanation, it makes sense to me that when we use Tarot we are saying to the spiritual dimension: "This is the language in which I wish to communicate," just as you might tell a person that you’d like to speak with them in English or Spanish, or some other language.
When you use no psychic tool, then in a way you are saying to spirit, "I’ll use whatever language you want to speak to me in." This usually means a steeper learning curve. It may also, however, mean more extensive potential for message content. For we are not limited to the symbolic language of the Tarot, or of the Runes, or other divination tools.
For me this explanation of how Tarot works is most helpful. I don’t mean it to be THE explanation that everyone must accept, but rather offer it to people who may be interested in my underlying assumptions in my approach to Tarot.
To me, understanding Tarot as a language through which we communicate with the spiritual dimension of the universe helps explain phenomena such as how the symbolic art of modern decks (such as Wheel of Change, Shining Tribe, Daughters of the Moon, PoMo)—which may differ greatly from that of long established decks (such as Marseille, Waite-Smith, Thoth)--still "work." The new decks work, I believe, for the same reason that the established decks work: they give us a symbolic language with which to communicate with spirit.
The spiritual dimension is not biased towards Waite-Smith or Thoth. It is not biased towards using Jungian archetypes or Qabalah with your Tarot. As long as the deck is consistent within its own framework and I believe to a certain extent inspired, it will work. But even more importantly, spirit will work with whatever speaks to you most vividly. When you find the deck(s) that suit you best, you find the clearest language to share with spirit.
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 8:52 pm Post subject: Relationship spread
1) What you are bringing into the relationship
2) Where you are now, in relation to the other person
3) What you are hoping to get from the relationship
4) What the other person is bringing into their relationship with you
5) What they are getting out of it
6) What they are hoping to achieve/experience with you
7) How you see the other person
How they see you
9) How you saw him/her when you first met
10) How the other person saw you on your first meeting
11) Your own anxieties/inconscious fears
12) The other person's anxieties/unconscious fears
13) External influences upon you
14) External influences upon the other person
15) Where the relationship will go
Lay the Querent's cards on the left and the "other's" on the right. Hope you enjoy.
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 8:59 pm Post subject: 7 card "love search" spread
here's a detailed, 7 card spread:
The cards are laid out as shown below, evenly divided between internal and external information:
7
2 6
3 4
1 5
First card: WHY the client has not yet found their perfect partner
Second card: HOW they can overcome these obstacles and any issues in the first card
Third card: WHAT is the most positive thing they can do to find their partner
Fourth card: WHO would be the right person for the client
Fifth card: WHERE they will find their partner
Sixth card: WHEN they will find their partner
Seventh card: Optional – Significator or karmic lesson associated with this relationship
The left-hand triangle represents internal issues and suggests specific actions the client can take to resolve his or her obstacles and actively find a partner. The actions in the third card should be taken once the problems and solutions described in the first two cards have been dealt with, and this third card points toward the partner, described by the fourth card. Through hard experience, I have learned to ask for the gender of the hoped-for partner in advance
The right-hand triangle represents the partner and the circumstances in which they may be found. The fourth card may represent either a specific person or the generalized type of person that will be most likely to provide the client with a lasting, loving relationship. Which way you read it depends on the client's and the reader's metaphysical view of relationships, such as whether you believe in soul-mates or past lives. I sometimes read this card as an actual person, if it appears that their partner may already be in their life or will be soon, or if I get the sense that there are strong karmic or past life issues at work (indicated by "karma" cards such as Justice, Judgment, etc.). Often, however, I will read this as a type of person. This does not have to be a court card, it can be any card, and the reader should infer the personality suggested by the card. This can be difficult if it is a trump card, and certain trump cards may be read more as a life stage that the person is going through, if that is the most important thing about him that the client needs to know. Reversed cards in this position may mean the person is not who the client thinks, or will not be what he appears, or is simply going through a difficult period the type of which is suggested by the nature of the card.
Cards 5 and 6 may be read literally as where and when, or more generally in a circumstantial way. For example, the Three of Cups in the "where" position might suggest that the client will meet their partner at a social event, or through friends. A reversal of this card may mean that the situation will not be a positive one, or that the partner will be hard to find or hidden in some way. This card can also be read more literally, such as a warm and sunny place, a seashore, or any such place if suggested by the card. Card 6 can be read using any method of timing the reader is comfortable with, although the rest of the spread should also be looked at for timing clues. Alternatively, it can also be read more generally. For example, the Hermit reversed might mean that the client needs to complete their studies before they will have the opportunity to find their partner, as this activity requires solitude and leaves them little time for relationships. I often find in this position a card that represents the person the client will become once they resolve the issues raised in the first two cards – in which case the client will find their partner once they have completed that personal transformation.
A seventh card may be added to the reading if desired. It would normally be inappropriate to use an outcome card with this layout, since in most cases, the partner has not yet been found and the relationship not yet started. In this case, it would be premature to try to predict the outcome of the relationship. However, some readers may wish to use a significator representing the client for this reading, which can either be pre-selected or the chosen by the Tarot. I prefer to let the deck choose, because that often gives me additional insight into who the client is now and what their issues may be. The seventh card may also be used to describe the nature of the bond between these two people, and a karmic lesson or purpose their relationship is intended to fulfill.
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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 3:07 am Post subject: Tarot
Hi Wiccan Warrior
I found your posts very interesting,it's made me want to try the Tarot for myself.
Is it easy to learn the Tarot, are there books to help people who want to learn, step by step, so to speak.
The different spreads look really good, is there one for anything you want to know.
Sorry about all the question, but your posts have really got me wanting to learn more.
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Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 1:55 am Post subject:
Hi Neptune
I'm pleased you found the topic so interesting that you want to learn more.
There are lots of books out there for people who want to start out using the Tarot cards. it's easy to learn to read the tarot cards, the books tell you what the cards mean, and what they mean in a reading.
Does take a long time though to be able to tune into what the cards are really saying.
If you are in tune properly, the tarot is part of your intuition, and each card helps to tell a story as a whole.
To explain that more clearly. You shouldnt just read each card in turn, say what the book says that card mean, then onto the next one. The cards dont really work like that, they sort of tell a story, each card changing what one card means, depending what other cards are saying in the reading. They also link up to each other, for instance, if one card is saying that at the moment you are feeling a little down, and one card says you are feeling trapped, and then another says you need to rest, take a break or distance yourself from things. Then you can see stringing the bigger picture into the reading, that the reason the person is feeling down is because they are feeling overworked, trapped in a situation, and they really need to rest, or take some time out for a while.
You can see then how the cards start to tune in.
Saying all that though, theres no reason why you cant try this for yourself.
I find the ryder waite cards to be good for the beginner, because the pictures on the cards are simple enough to see whats going off in the cards. Keep things simple for yourself. You will read about reversed meanings, (when you pick a card and it's upside down..) forget about this to start with. You can always try reversed meaning at a later date.
Hope that helped a bit
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Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 7:05 pm Post subject: learning the Tarot
Hi all.
I started learning the Tarot a few months ago. I got a book that came with my Tarot cards as a set. I dont really do it on a serious level, but i do have a go at it every now and then.
Reading the cards i pick out of the book is easy, What i find a little harder to do is, link them all together to make an overall reading or message that makes sense to the question i asked.
I guess thats what makes a Tarot reader.
Still enjoy doing it though.
Neptune
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